请教:振动,冲击和碰撞三者的区别? 可靠性技术 可靠性试验 08年8月6日 编辑 purplesapple 取消关注 关注 私信 在可靠性测试中 不同的产品所作的测试是不一样的 有的产品需要做振动测试,有的需要做冲击,有的需要做碰撞。又或者选取其中的某两项或三项做测试 请问:振动,冲击和碰撞这三者之间的区别是什么呢? 如何根据产品来选择是做什么测试呢? 谢谢 给TA打赏 共{{data.count}}人 人已打赏
xiangxuesong lv3lv3 08年8月19日 测试物检测方法:一.将测试物放在手上,以最快速度上下移动.震动测试完毕. 二.将测试物放在手上,人从2米高地方跳下,手姿势保持不变,冲击实验完毕. 三.将测试物放在手上,以最快速度撞击墙壁,碰撞测试完毕. 结果: 个人:因纯天然绿色测试,无需资金和损耗,被公司嘉奖. 公司:因产品屡次通过天然测试,而大量生产,被大量退货.倒闭!
tigernew lv2lv2 08年8月7日 振动测试: 包装振动-模拟产品运输过程中可能会发生的振动(比如汽车、飞机、轮船等各种运输方式),通常标准里有不同运输方式的振动要求 Operation振动-模拟产品使用过程中会遇到的振动,各种产品的次项测试应该有不同要求。 [url=http://www.kekaoxing.com/club/thread-2858-1-1.html]MIL-STD-810F[/url]中对振动的描述: Configurethetestitemappropriatelyforthelifecyclephasetobesimulated. a.Transportation.Configurethetestitemforshipmentincludingprotectivecases,devices,and/orpacking.Mountthetestitemtothetestfixture(s)bymeansofrestraintsand/ortie-downsdynamicallyrepresentativeoflifecycletransportationevents. b.Operationalservice.Configurethetestitemforserviceuse.Securethetestitemtothetestfixture(s)atthemountingpoint(s)andusethesametypeofmountinghardwareasusedduringlifecycleoperationalservice.Provideallmechanical,electrical,hydraulic,pneumaticorotherconnectionstothematerielthatwillbeusedinoperationalservice.Ensuretheseconnectionsdynamicallysimulatetheserviceconnectionsandthattheyarefullyfunctionalunlessotherwisespecified. 810F中对冲击(Shock)的描述: a.ProcedureI-FunctionalShock.ProcedureIisintendedtotestmateriel(includingmechanical, electrical,hydraulic,andelectronic)initsfunctionalmodeandtoassessthephysicalintegrity,continuity andfunctionalityofthematerieltoshock.Ingeneral,thematerielisrequiredtofunctionduringthe shockandtosurvivewithoutdamagetoshocksrepresentativeofthosethatmaybeencounteredduring operationalservice. b.ProcedureII-Materieltobepackaged.ProcedureIIistobeusedwhenmaterielwillrequireashipping container.Itspecifiesaminimumcriticalshockresistanceleveltoahandlingdropheight.Theshock definitionmaybefurnishedtoapackagedesignerasadesigncriterion.Thisprocedureisnotintended forthetestofextremelyfragilemateriel,e.g.,missileguidancesystems,precision-alignedtestequipment, gyros,inertialguidanceplatforms,etc.Forextremelyfragilematerielwherequantificationofshock resistanceisrequiredProcedureIIIshouldbeconsidered.Seeparagraph2.3belowforprocessing techniquesusefulinexpressingshockresistancecriteria. c.ProcedureIII-Fragility.ProcedureIIIisusedtodetermineamateriel’sruggednessorfragilitysothat packagingcanbedesignedforthemateriel,orsothematerielcanberedesignedtomeettransportation and/orhandlingrequirements.Thisprocedureisusedtodeterminethecriticalshockconditionsatwhich thereisreasonablechanceofstructuraland/orfunctionalsystemdegradation.Toachievethemost realisticcriteria,performtheprocedureatenvironmentaltemperatureextremes.Seeparagraph2.3below forprocessingtechniquesusefulinexpressingshockfragilitycriteria. d.ProcedureIV-TransitDrop.ProcedureIVisintendedformaterieleitheroutsideoforwithinitstransit orcombinationcase,oraspreparedforfielduse(carriedtoacombatsituationbyman,truck,rail,etc.). Thisprocedureisusedtodetermineifthematerieliscapableofwithstandingtheshocksnormally inducedbyloadingandunloadingwhenitis(1)outsideofitstransitorcombinationcase,e.g.,during routinemaintenance,whenbeingremovedfromarack,beingplacedinitstransitcase,etc.,or(2)inside itstransitorcombinationcase.Suchshocksareaccidental,butmayimpairthefunctioningofthe materiel.Thisprocedureisnotintendedforshocksencounteredinanormallogisticenvironmentas experiencedbymaterielinsideshippingcontainersanddefinedinthemateriel’slifecycleprofile(see ProcedureII–MaterieltobePackaged). e.ProcedureV-CrashHazard.ProcedureVisformaterielmountedinairorgroundvehiclesthatcould breakloosefromitsmounts,tiedownsorcontainmentconfigurationduringacrashandpresentahazard tovehicleoccupantsandbystanders.Thisprocedureisintendedtoverifythestructuralintegrityof materielmounts,tiedownsorcontainmentconfigurationduringsimulatedcrashconditions.Thetest shouldbeusedtoverifytheoverallstructuralintegrityofthemateriel,i.e.,partsofthematerielarenot ejectedundertheshock.Thisprocedureisnotintendedformaterieltransportedascargoforwhich method513.5,Acceleration,ormethod514.5,Vibration,couldbeapplied. f.ProcedureVI-BenchHandling.ProcedureVIisintendedformaterielthatmaytypicallyexperience benchhandling,benchmaintenance,orpackaging.Itisusedtodeterminetheabilityofthematerielto withstandrepresentativelevelsofshockencounteredduringtypicalbenchhandling,benchmaintenance, orpackaging.Suchshocksmightoccurduringmaterielrepair.Thisproceduremayincludetestingfor materielwithprotrusionsthatmaybeeasilydamagedwithoutregardtogrossshockonthetotalmateriel. Thenatureofsuchtestingishighlyspecializedandmustbeperformedonacase-by-casebasis,noting theconfigurationofthematerielprotrusionsandthecasescenariosfordamageduringsuchactivitiesas benchhandling,maintenance,andpackaging.Thisprocedureisappropriateformedium-to-largetest materieloutofitstransitorcombinationcasethathasamaximumdimensiongreaterthanapproximately 23cm(9inches).Smallmaterielsystems,ingeneral,willbetestedtohigherlevelsduringProcedureIV, TransitDrop. MIL-STD-810F METHOD516.5 516.5-5g.ProcedureVII-RailImpact.ProcedureVIIisintendedtotestmaterielthatwillbetransportedbyrail;todeterminetheeffectofnormalrailroadcarimpactsthatoccurduringrailshipment,toverifythestructuralintegrityofthemateriel,andtoevaluatetheadequacyofthetiedownsystemandthetiedownprocedures.Allitemsaretobetestedattheirmaximumgrossweight(fullyloaded)ratingunlessotherwisespecifiedinthetransportabilityrequirementsforthemateriel.Thisprocedureisnotintendedfortheseparatetestingofsmall,individuallypackagedpiecesofmaterielthatwouldnormallybeshipped(andtested)whenmountedonapallet,oraspartofalargermateriel.Forsuchtests,thereferencesprovideguidanceonenvironmentsmeasuredduringrailimpactthatmaybeusefulinspeciallytailoredlaboratorytesting. ProcedureVIII-CatapultLaunch/ArrestedLanding.ProcedureVIIIisintendedformaterielmountedinoronfixed-wingaircraftthataresubjecttocatapultlaunchesandarrestedlandings.Forcatapultlaunch,materielmayexperienceacombinationofinitialshockfollowedbyalowleveltransientvibrationofsomedurationhavingfrequencycomponentsintheneighborhoodofthemountingplatform’slowestfrequencies,andconcludedbyafinalshockaccordingtothecatapulteventsequence.Forarrestedlanding,materielmayexperienceaninitialshockfollowedbyalowleveltransientvibrationofsomedurationhavingfrequencycomponentsintheneighborhoodofthemountingplatform’slowestfrequencies.
kingdesign lv3lv3 08年8月6日 振动讲究持续性,疲劳性 冲击是瞬间性,破坏性! 碰撞是重复性的冲击 选择做什么测试,嘿嘿,超出我个人能力了 应是从生产到出货后到客户端将会出现什么情况吧,一整个过程按理说,振动冲击碰撞现象都是存在的 都做当然最好哇。嘿嘿哈 参考行业标准吧
谢谢楼主的分享。
看售后情况,看看哪种情况被投诉最多
一般都是模拟现实使用中可能会遇到的状况,产品的标准一般会有,可以参考
哈哈哈哈
呵呵,个人:因纯天然绿色测试,无需资金和损耗,被公司嘉奖.
公司:因产品屡次通过天然测试,而大量生产,被大量退货.倒闭!
测试物检测方法:一.将测试物放在手上,以最快速度上下移动.震动测试完毕.
二.将测试物放在手上,人从2米高地方跳下,手姿势保持不变,冲击实验完毕.
三.将测试物放在手上,以最快速度撞击墙壁,碰撞测试完毕.
结果:
个人:因纯天然绿色测试,无需资金和损耗,被公司嘉奖.
公司:因产品屡次通过天然测试,而大量生产,被大量退货.倒闭!
如果客户没有要求,你想提高自己产品的可靠性,可以找到标准,然后做的更严酷一些。做与不做就看自己对产品品质的要求高不高了。
谢谢各位的指点!
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振动测试:
包装振动-模拟产品运输过程中可能会发生的振动(比如汽车、飞机、轮船等各种运输方式),通常标准里有不同运输方式的振动要求
Operation振动-模拟产品使用过程中会遇到的振动,各种产品的次项测试应该有不同要求。
[url=http://www.kekaoxing.com/club/thread-2858-1-1.html]MIL-STD-810F[/url]中对振动的描述:
Configurethetestitemappropriatelyforthelifecyclephasetobesimulated.
a.Transportation.Configurethetestitemforshipmentincludingprotectivecases,devices,and/orpacking.Mountthetestitemtothetestfixture(s)bymeansofrestraintsand/ortie-downsdynamicallyrepresentativeoflifecycletransportationevents.
b.Operationalservice.Configurethetestitemforserviceuse.Securethetestitemtothetestfixture(s)atthemountingpoint(s)andusethesametypeofmountinghardwareasusedduringlifecycleoperationalservice.Provideallmechanical,electrical,hydraulic,pneumaticorotherconnectionstothematerielthatwillbeusedinoperationalservice.Ensuretheseconnectionsdynamicallysimulatetheserviceconnectionsandthattheyarefullyfunctionalunlessotherwisespecified.
810F中对冲击(Shock)的描述:
a.ProcedureI-FunctionalShock.ProcedureIisintendedtotestmateriel(includingmechanical,
electrical,hydraulic,andelectronic)initsfunctionalmodeandtoassessthephysicalintegrity,continuity
andfunctionalityofthematerieltoshock.Ingeneral,thematerielisrequiredtofunctionduringthe
shockandtosurvivewithoutdamagetoshocksrepresentativeofthosethatmaybeencounteredduring
operationalservice.
b.ProcedureII-Materieltobepackaged.ProcedureIIistobeusedwhenmaterielwillrequireashipping
container.Itspecifiesaminimumcriticalshockresistanceleveltoahandlingdropheight.Theshock
definitionmaybefurnishedtoapackagedesignerasadesigncriterion.Thisprocedureisnotintended
forthetestofextremelyfragilemateriel,e.g.,missileguidancesystems,precision-alignedtestequipment,
gyros,inertialguidanceplatforms,etc.Forextremelyfragilematerielwherequantificationofshock
resistanceisrequiredProcedureIIIshouldbeconsidered.Seeparagraph2.3belowforprocessing
techniquesusefulinexpressingshockresistancecriteria.
c.ProcedureIII-Fragility.ProcedureIIIisusedtodetermineamateriel’sruggednessorfragilitysothat
packagingcanbedesignedforthemateriel,orsothematerielcanberedesignedtomeettransportation
and/orhandlingrequirements.Thisprocedureisusedtodeterminethecriticalshockconditionsatwhich
thereisreasonablechanceofstructuraland/orfunctionalsystemdegradation.Toachievethemost
realisticcriteria,performtheprocedureatenvironmentaltemperatureextremes.Seeparagraph2.3below
forprocessingtechniquesusefulinexpressingshockfragilitycriteria.
d.ProcedureIV-TransitDrop.ProcedureIVisintendedformaterieleitheroutsideoforwithinitstransit
orcombinationcase,oraspreparedforfielduse(carriedtoacombatsituationbyman,truck,rail,etc.).
Thisprocedureisusedtodetermineifthematerieliscapableofwithstandingtheshocksnormally
inducedbyloadingandunloadingwhenitis(1)outsideofitstransitorcombinationcase,e.g.,during
routinemaintenance,whenbeingremovedfromarack,beingplacedinitstransitcase,etc.,or(2)inside
itstransitorcombinationcase.Suchshocksareaccidental,butmayimpairthefunctioningofthe
materiel.Thisprocedureisnotintendedforshocksencounteredinanormallogisticenvironmentas
experiencedbymaterielinsideshippingcontainersanddefinedinthemateriel’slifecycleprofile(see
ProcedureII–MaterieltobePackaged).
e.ProcedureV-CrashHazard.ProcedureVisformaterielmountedinairorgroundvehiclesthatcould
breakloosefromitsmounts,tiedownsorcontainmentconfigurationduringacrashandpresentahazard
tovehicleoccupantsandbystanders.Thisprocedureisintendedtoverifythestructuralintegrityof
materielmounts,tiedownsorcontainmentconfigurationduringsimulatedcrashconditions.Thetest
shouldbeusedtoverifytheoverallstructuralintegrityofthemateriel,i.e.,partsofthematerielarenot
ejectedundertheshock.Thisprocedureisnotintendedformaterieltransportedascargoforwhich
method513.5,Acceleration,ormethod514.5,Vibration,couldbeapplied.
f.ProcedureVI-BenchHandling.ProcedureVIisintendedformaterielthatmaytypicallyexperience
benchhandling,benchmaintenance,orpackaging.Itisusedtodeterminetheabilityofthematerielto
withstandrepresentativelevelsofshockencounteredduringtypicalbenchhandling,benchmaintenance,
orpackaging.Suchshocksmightoccurduringmaterielrepair.Thisproceduremayincludetestingfor
materielwithprotrusionsthatmaybeeasilydamagedwithoutregardtogrossshockonthetotalmateriel.
Thenatureofsuchtestingishighlyspecializedandmustbeperformedonacase-by-casebasis,noting
theconfigurationofthematerielprotrusionsandthecasescenariosfordamageduringsuchactivitiesas
benchhandling,maintenance,andpackaging.Thisprocedureisappropriateformedium-to-largetest
materieloutofitstransitorcombinationcasethathasamaximumdimensiongreaterthanapproximately
23cm(9inches).Smallmaterielsystems,ingeneral,willbetestedtohigherlevelsduringProcedureIV,
TransitDrop.
MIL-STD-810F
METHOD516.5
516.5-5g.ProcedureVII-RailImpact.ProcedureVIIisintendedtotestmaterielthatwillbetransportedbyrail;todeterminetheeffectofnormalrailroadcarimpactsthatoccurduringrailshipment,toverifythestructuralintegrityofthemateriel,andtoevaluatetheadequacyofthetiedownsystemandthetiedownprocedures.Allitemsaretobetestedattheirmaximumgrossweight(fullyloaded)ratingunlessotherwisespecifiedinthetransportabilityrequirementsforthemateriel.Thisprocedureisnotintendedfortheseparatetestingofsmall,individuallypackagedpiecesofmaterielthatwouldnormallybeshipped(andtested)whenmountedonapallet,oraspartofalargermateriel.Forsuchtests,thereferencesprovideguidanceonenvironmentsmeasuredduringrailimpactthatmaybeusefulinspeciallytailoredlaboratorytesting.
ProcedureVIII-CatapultLaunch/ArrestedLanding.ProcedureVIIIisintendedformaterielmountedinoronfixed-wingaircraftthataresubjecttocatapultlaunchesandarrestedlandings.Forcatapultlaunch,materielmayexperienceacombinationofinitialshockfollowedbyalowleveltransientvibrationofsomedurationhavingfrequencycomponentsintheneighborhoodofthemountingplatform’slowestfrequencies,andconcludedbyafinalshockaccordingtothecatapulteventsequence.Forarrestedlanding,materielmayexperienceaninitialshockfollowedbyalowleveltransientvibrationofsomedurationhavingfrequencycomponentsintheneighborhoodofthemountingplatform’slowestfrequencies.
我们在做测试的时候也是模拟现实使用过程中的某些情况
那三者分别模拟的是使用过程或搬运过程中的哪些情况呢?
谢谢
如果客户没有特别要求做哪项实验,
那就按行业标准来做吧,
标准里通常会列出需要做哪些机械类实验的.
振动讲究持续性,疲劳性
冲击是瞬间性,破坏性!
碰撞是重复性的冲击
选择做什么测试,嘿嘿,超出我个人能力了
应是从生产到出货后到客户端将会出现什么情况吧,一整个过程按理说,振动冲击碰撞现象都是存在的
都做当然最好哇。嘿嘿哈
参考行业标准吧